is it going to cause the game to completely vanish if the company were to shut down ? Everyone knows about them. So if people in the third world cant pay western prices having recasts means more of a hobby presence that pushes those who value original source into an ongoing if not growing stream of business. But good way to name and shame yourself, although I doubt there is any shame there. Totally agree with you, its morons like them who are putting a nail in the coffin of our hobby, I bought a recast by mistake off eBay, I thought I was buying a genuine Pegaso figure, when it arrived I knew instantly of the mistake Id made, everything that is bad in a casting was plain to see, the main thing being it should have been cast in white metal and was instead a poor resin cast instead, thankfully eBay took action and swiftly booted this pirate off. They tried to grow way too fast and their main game had waaay to many units and thus huge costs to cover it. Also, if you think this is going to destroy GW, check out their profit margins in their annual business reports. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'spikeybits_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_9',634,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-spikeybits_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0');Mix Your Paint In Seconds! My FLGS has 20 tables filled with terrain whereas the GW has two tables in a tiny store away from any major shopping areas. But if they got a fund together and I am sure there are enough lawyers between hobbyists that can support it pro bono. I totally understand the problem with stolen IP and that the problem must be addressed, but I would also say that in regards to out of production miniatures that in economic terms GW are not providing what the market wants, so the market is finding alternative ways to provide it, unfortunately these arent legal, but on the other hand this is an avoidable situation for GW. Judge yourselves. As a result, everyone is losing I, the Chinese, Games Workshop. hell do they even pay their staff a decent wage. It is our mission to bring you the latest from the miniature wargaming scene, from narrative missions, hobby how-to tutorials, battle reports, unboxings and reviews, retro flashbacks, news, rumors, and more. We cant do anything but have thought experiments because unlike other companies, GW wont discuss the affects of recasting and no one has published any kind of reasonable peer reviewed study. Even so, this work is not enough to come even close to the original. At a glance, recasts appear quite similar, but when looked at closely, important flaws become evident. It is the same, in my opinion, as downloading movies and music that you havent paid for the right to see. Is it okay to create my own miniatures if they are not a product that Games Workshop creates or has any copyrights on? the whole they charge too much so stuff them attitude is scummy and weak they are a business and need to make a profit if they start to lose market share because people are turning to other games then they might re think their prices. The China Warhammer recaster known as CDR recently announced that they are: shutting down business for good and that a handful of people are buying all their master molds. @Italeri Games Workshop prices are high, but they are not massively greater than companies like Knight Models. DVD prices havent gone down. If we demand fairer prices and go outside their control, it is because they are not catering to the majority of their customers. Thats despicable. But if we want to talk about greed; innefficient capital structures like the massive litigious company games workshop has become cant talk and the average human animal forced into a capitalistic system also cant be blamed. They are the backbone of the operation and have done this for years to create wonderful minis as well as a great line of paints. I will always buy the original product when I can, but Im also going to buy high quality recasts for models that I need multiples of. It leaked that it costs Games Workshop about $5-$7 per a box of Marine Tac squad. Illegal sellers proliferate on second-hand portals, ebay, e-mail contacts and even mobile aplications for peer to peer trading. The resin *can* be toxic, but buying from larger recasters is safe. Because even considering the amount of money saved, it does not make up for the atrocious quality received. I myself am very pro recast, that being said maybe 5-10% of my models are recast. No one has put more indie model firms out of business than GW. to produce a 45 dollar marine squad it cost 5 bucks, sure. And its not Hollywood that is getting killed. Detail is not lost when buying from larger recasters. 33% of the original, and with a positive experience in my pocket Im more likely to stick into the hobby, which means more long term profits. Age of Sigmar is more popular than WFB was. They were producing beautiful miniatures (crazy complicated game) but they were cut the margins too thinly. GW can produce, package, sculpt, advertise etc a box of Cadian Shock Troops for 20. I do not buy such copies for moral reasons, but I will not buy original figurines. With those numbers the hobby will never die, thats amazing! The person being greedy here is you. Yes. As you see, this is nightmarish no matter how you look at it. Let us know in the comments of ourFacebook Hobby Group,and make sure youenter the latest monthly giveaway for FREE today! Mainly Forgeworld and resin copies of Games Workshop plastic kits. While actual models are 3D printed from a computer file done by a minimun wage payed designer and then casted the most hollow and thin possible to minimize costs and reduce durability. In the case of this piece, originally from Forgeworld, I had a small problem with the recasters. Quality and durability is a real issue with their resin, Ive had several LoTR finecast models break on me while gaming far too easily, usually on fine detail or blades thats near impossible to effectively fix. GW going out of business would be the best thing in the world for the hobby. Despite every measure taken, with the evolution of websites and social networks, recasting has become nearly unstoppable. No it is killing the cinema. In addition to this, the flat parts are not flat by any (ANY) means. Now we have to spend 40 on a family trip to the cinema. Their prices are so small that nobody in the world could copy their figurines. But, from my experience, smaller manufactures like Andrea, and Pegaso, and Scibor, and Blacksmith, etc. or have you forgotten about the atrocious quality that was Citadel Finecast, here despite the shit quality we still saw an increase in price. Save Money On All These Alternative Miniatures. "R" refreshes comments. Youre not automatically entitled to them. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. You give that profit to someone that doesnt pay tax in this country. But what about the giant press they had to design and manufacture. 1. A quick check of eBay appeared to turn up way fewer listings for "Forge World" than last week at this time. OK, rightful, dont buy it, but if you buy from a recast is like steal the model. If you dont have the money to afford models, dont buy them. GW greed and agressive copyright protection has no sympathy in my hart, not to mention rule changing every year and leaving youngsters out of hobby due to pricing. You retard, that was already included in the measurement. We pay so that the company we like so much is able to surpriseus again in the future with yet another piece to continue enjoying our hobby. Youre obviously not using a good recaster, also you havent mentioned the cheap cost of resin and how much profit is made on resin models. I have original models, but only because I discovered only recently about recast and I will definitely go this way. I just bought Dreadnought with 2 sets of weapons and I paid > 100 EUR. Its material has still some margin for manipulation, as opposed to the one in the recast copy. There wouldnt BE re-castes is the prices were reasonable in the first place. Obviously, as you will see now, the original copy hasvery good quality in every detail. Prices go up. Those are the nice guys who brought us age of sigmar, which made great armys obsolete and huge investmenst of time and money into them void. I say choose wisely and ALWAYS go with the origin of the art if possible. Game workshops prophit have been that big that instead of making their models cheaper for their customers they gave their staff a 2 thousand pounds bonus ( tax purposes) so boo hoo if the greedy fuckers are losing in the grand scale of things pocket change. So recast companies will push this margin further and further. The above article is, quite frankly, scaremongering. We are talking about recasts: illegal copies of miniatures. I have no problem doing a massive company like GW out of 40 quid. Appealing to modelers if futile in my opinion, there is not enough power in that argument to change buying habits. FJ was developed by a multicultural team of various beliefs. Just saying individuals like that who do that have no moral compass. All rights reserved. Dont get confused. I now rely on trade forums to find slightly reasonably priced models. I totally understand how the purchasing of recasts of existing stock is hurting miniature companies, but what do you think about the recasting of long out of production (10 years plus) miniatures? Reporting to our Senior Legal Counsel, you will be part of our Legal team which handles a wide range of legal matters which affect Games Workshop including infringements, trade mark and copyright protection, competitions, dispute resolution and litigation, to name but a few! I look forward to you trying that defence in court. Salaries of their employees are probably atrociousand, above all, they undermine the business of proper companies endangering their countinuity. OUR EXISTENCE IS IN DANGER! I dont buy recasts, and I dont buy from companies that charge more than I think is reasonable. Big mistake to highlight just one country for recasting. Im not into recasting but what I find ridiculous is Games Workshops prices. will they invest in all the new technology? But imo GW are flogging its customers for all its worth while things are good. So, no, thats straight up greed, and while morally not as bad as 700% increase on the cost of pharmaceuticals, its the same mindset. The 9th Edition of 40k is going to be open and crowd sourced by the players, for the players, for the betterment of the game instead of lining GWs pockets. Plain and simple. It leaves you a very salty taste. After what number model those artists are paid ? The first company produces models that are far better sculpts and casts than the second. You know what happens? Nor over on Volomir talked about some of the reasons why miniature copies need to be []. For a better comparison, I have cleaned all the copies of excess resin and plastic. GW rant incoming: I agree with buying recasts only when it is GW. Suffer in the worst way possible. Youll argue but I havent taken anything and the owner of the IP still has their product. But heres the kicker. The models they had to sculpt digitally and then cast in a way they would both fit in the box, and be easy to mass produce. My issue is the price, these limited edition models ie: Eisenhorn, Sly, some of the Primaris models are just crazy expensive in comparison. Genestealer Cult, Ad Mech & Eldar Top The 40k Army Lists. as you seem to be proud of the fact you steal form these companies. The above is, again, scare-mongering. They were available on the ebay site of the Chinese network named Taobao. From the beginning thought of a new model in their head to putting it on paper, and into real life. We arent saying you shouldnt buy alternate versions of models that you can use in your tabletop games. 2K. However, it is unknown if sellers have been similarly notified or if there is just a lull in listings. I havent bought any GW recasts yet but I support it because if it eventually hurts GW enough that they reevaluate their business practices and lower their prices, that will bring more people into the hobby and overall gaming will be better. After evaluating each and every aspect that could lead us to look for a cheaper product, we see that getting the original product will undoubtedly make our experience with the miniature hobby much better. Many other companies offer products as good as theirs or even better for a lower price. Famous search engines of Chinese products show easily references of companies like Andrea Miniatures, Nocturna Models, Young Miniatures, Knight Models, and many others. There are precedents in Russia where local manufacturers took re casters to court and won damages, so it isnt an issue of legal vacuum in those countries, its inability or non willingness to pursue action. Rules Recaster Z is the lowest cost and - #171951649 added by manollette at Desu Korps of Kreig 21 2019 Games Workshop Warhammer 40k Ork Boyz $40 A recasting catalog 2/2/18 A recasting catalog 2/2/18. CCoN has lower inventory variety and higher cost, but he's cheapest when he has a sale and it's really good quality. As Infringements Assistant, you will assist with all things relating to infringements. Despite asking them to send me the fake Venator model, they sent me the normal fake Tauros model, a shorter version than the one I requested. I thought he was describing forge world quality there for a second. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/eu-study-finds-piracy-doesnt-hurt-game-sales-may-actually-help/. We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Try to pay a good concept designer, a good sculptor, a good painter for box art, than doing promotion, pay tax, location, bills and what else and dont forget you need to have profit for time and risk you took. There are so many classic wfb models Id love to buy, but the second hand market is just crazy since aos happened and some models are just near impossible to find, even if you have the money. 20+ years of Warhammer and I only found out about recasts a few months ago. All I can say is that the metal quality is horrible. Someone mentioned looked at Rackham games as if recasts are why they went out of business. What companies are u using for recasts? Cant have it both ways, either strict on piracy or not. Instead of looking into the business that are in the climate (and possibly are the reason for the climate being the way it is) we try to cancel culture those in the hobby. Tripling the quarterly profits isnt exactly telling me that they are covering costs and slowly expanding. So the person being greedy here is you. The cost of your model is not only resin, but a sum of the voice, buy from a recaster and you are a thief like the recaster itself. You think they magically pump out miniatures at just the cost of supplies you are an idiot. Copies from recasters, most of the time from China, are at first glance an option to acquire otherwise expensive miniatures at affordable prices. Its very easy to make an illegal copy of a miniature, especially if the country where its made has bad labour policies. Recasts: 3 reasons why we need to avoid illegal or unauthorized Amazing D&D Fantasy diorama tabletop terrain. After that no surprise if some brands get copied in the first place, that kind of behavior and answer has no place in a world where international trades are a thing. Ive loved games workshops products for over 20 years now but im finding it harder and harder to justify spending so much on their productsespecially after they tried so hard to stop us here in australia finding cheaper prices overseas, ill continue to support gw by buying genuine products but im not going to pay the crazy prices they want is to pay here. I have to necro a bit here. Do they source their injection molds from Australian materials and Mexican labor? It is wrong but it is also stupid. One must ask whats in the customers best interest? there was articular about how GW buys there cast from Chinese companys and they over order and then decide not to pay for amount they decide they no longer need. I have been here buying from my local store from the past 25 years. Back to the content 'Desu Korps of Kreig'. Not me. Finally, are you sure you arent a recaster? The manufacturer isnt benefiting from this situation either. GWs greed and extortionate prices. Case in point: One miniature, slightly more detailed than a normal marine: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Games-Workshop-Warhammer-40k-Space-Marine-Commander/107298737?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1239&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=1019313&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113137378&wl11=online&wl12=107298737&wl13=&veh=sem Whos being the thief? Since GW is in China, they are rocking hard, privateer press and corvus belli also understood that, so instead of making your products unavailable for some countries like this one, you should learn to work with them instead, because like it or not, they always find a way in, and as said earlier, its not from the one you think. GW seldom does. We are always keen to ensure continuous improvement of our processes, so you will be involved in researching and identifying new ways for Games Workshop to approach infringing and counterfeit product removal and implementing improvements to the infringements process.. Things like Kodi make it seem harmless oh you clicked a few buttons and bingo it is there without any effort, so it must be harmless. FWs resin is also crap and brittle, not sure what your point is there. But Netflix absorbed a lot of people, including the extremely low population of pirates, who just wanted a reasonable price for what they wanted. Squats went 20 years ago because no one was buying them. The more people there are who are anticipating the reveal of new stuff are there because there is an established community and it only gets better the bigger the community is. Seriously, if you received the package and looked at it carefully, you would understand what we are talking about. People who use recast try to paint GW as the bad guy and the others that protect GW dont want to have a conversation or rationalize their thoughts. Z Catalog Recast. Games workshop not only wants lots of money for its live figures (5 euros for guardsman from krieg !, more than for metal ones!). Recommended Products For The Miniatures Hobby! View, download or. This scourge of the hobby is a worldwide problem. On average every 30 recasts bought is one less miniature to the market. GW copycat ideas from sourses like Terminator,Alien, Dungeons and Dragons and what not. Its about supporting companies that support your interests by creating models and figures you enjoy. Im now buying models that Id never buy because they are crazy expensive, for example forgeworld knights. The quality is just as good as forgeworld, sometimes you need to add a little greenstuff though but the same goes with forgeworld models. If you plan on punishing players (and I mean PUNISH them) when you compare what you offer for what other reasonable vendors offer, you find re-castes are a result of your own actions. Recaster Z is the lowest cost and - #171951649 added by manollette at Desu Korps of Kreig Upload. You stole the rights to that model. Especially when taken out of context or without a clue of whats going on here Sure there are Chinese recasters, unfortunately I hate to break it to you, but all of the biggest and well known recasts world wide produced here are made by westerners Bummer. Maybe it will work for them but I think they are pushing away many potential newcomers to the hobby which is the future. You stole the right to use that miniature in your games, to paint it and to present it to your friends IRL or on social media. Some of the casts I have bought would struggle to be used as scenery they are that bad. The difficult thing is to develop a miniature from scratch, starting with an idea that begins with just a few pencil strokes on paper. Get ad-free access to our hobby videos, a monthly crate of miniatures, and support some of the best creators out there for as little as$6 a month on Patreon! Join. Another army made unplayable. Greedy company? Right now, a few companies simply stopped selling to Russia as their figures instantly get listed on pirated stores. Mainly because it is ILLEGAL. Check out Yoyhammer. I perfectly understood is time wasted, but something in me hope you understood the type of scum you and your friend are. Reap what you sow. These artists work hard. I dont want to be pointing finger, but we cannot choose to ignore part of IP basic principles, and focus on some others. Horus Heresy Adds a New Librarian Consul Model! It is our aim to be an inclusive and wholesome place for all. In addition, as you will see later, the casting is not good and irregular surfaces of material are very evident. The vast, vast majority of the models I buy are genuine GW products, but there gets a point where Im not going to spend 30 for each and every additional model in an army, which become often unusable in game as rules get re-released with almost each passing year. With Z, the above linked infantry squad is $16. The arguments here are simple white knighting and emotional, there is no one actually willing to discuss anything or addressing recasting. You stole it. And a very recent case of IP theft in Spain as you mention has brought this into the spotlight, but we havent found the time yet to properly talk about this very important matter. Hell, 5 years ago they were barely with 10 dollars a share. Personally I would like to see new players pick it up and have the hobby flourish. I wouldnt take a recast even if someone gives it to me for free. As expected, the pieces to assemble are the same as the original. Also, these fake copies come without any instructions (as opposed to, of course, the original Forgeworld copy). These illegal copies are either found in the second hand market or directly by those looking for a 70% discount or more. It is not a matter of victimization or educating anyone, but it is about making all our followers understand that the illicit practices of the recasters are causing us to be little by little in danger of extinction if we continue to feed them. You have not idea about, a totally ignorant. In this role, you will be monitoring websites and sales platforms to identify infringements and counterfeit products and then you will follow a structured process for removing those products, reducing counterfeit products available across all sales platforms and websites. They spend hundreds of thousands of dollars creating their cast presses for the units. Try again. Lets look at Netflix, people didnt think streaming would have as big of an effect as it did as before that everyone blamed everything on pirating. But there is a thing Id wish to point out, its the Chinese stigmatisation I am french living in China for about ten years now, and Chinese bashing is just a constant thing I hear from most of westerners and is absolutely not right either. If you are honestly trying to peddle such nonsense as recast being better than originals you are either seriously deluded or an outright liar! If I had to choose between paying my electricity bill or having a dread saurian , its crystal clear. You are absolutely right and I agree with you (but I like, and buying, many expensive figures). Some companies sell their original 28mm figures for less than 1.50 yet other companies sell theirs for 8. We basically pay to perpetuate the work of each and every one of the artists involved in the birth of this miniature. We havent got a global Netflix style service with all movies available. I also dont really care that much, GW killed warhammer fantasy so I dont mind if they get whats coming to them. These artists may not be local, but they are the ones putting all of their time and effort into bringing you these wonderful creations, only to be outdone by a random recaster. I dont agree with that it is stealing, its models I would never buy anyway. Also, the resin used for the recasts is a very smelly material, with a very weak and brittle body, and you have to be careful with it at all times. The current situation especially benefits those people who kept their stuff in boxes rather than paint/assemble/game with them, essentially those who buy the product but dont take part in the hobby. The figure in the picture (Nash) Sold 32 uni. Alecs is really right for all that fantasy models he refers were sculpted by artists and then casted to mass production, usually in metal and made of thick components. So what Jag is saying is if something is more expensive than he wants to pay, he is justified in stealing it. Rackham died because they didnt know how to run a business. I mean even though its hella shady its much easier to just buy a cheaper version of the model even if its a knockoff. We are saying to watch out for recasts of other artists personal work. There are MANY legitimate streaming options that are legal and same for MP3s. A model is too expensive in your opinion and dont worth the money? Unconditionally passionate about our hobby, Norberto lvarez has been in love with figures and static modeling since he was 11 years old. Forge world is horribly over priced and shit quality. Adding on to what Shane Rozzell have said and more direct. Bollocks. Its common knowledge, but still kind of a secret. Recasting isnt a side effect of greedy companies, I have known some companies unable to meet rent and worse still some have gone out of business. See yourself for historical games, for the Warlord Games company. Your supporting a criminal enterprise plain and simple which is slowly killing the hobby will these re casters spend time and money designing rule books and fluff? You can call people that buy recasts thieves I hope you enjoy your elitist hobby with the few people that can afford to play it. With Z, the above linked infantry squad is $16. The recasts I buy are better quality and for what I would 80 quid for from forge world I can buy from China for 20 dollars including delivery. a 6th edition metal dwarf throne of powers market price on ebay is now around 160, thats way beyond the reach of most hobbyists, definitely out of the reach of kids. Ive never bought a re-cast and never will. Did you complain about the Starbucks/Amazons/other tax dodgers? You say illegal a lot. We mainly cover Warhammer 40k, Fantasy, Age of Sigmar, Warmachine, Hordes, X-Wing, Infinity, Horus Heresy, and Star Wars Armada. Shortcuts: "C" opens comments. For the sake of this report, we have acquired a couple of Chinese illegal recasts as well as their respective originals, and we are going toshow you in detail why there is no point at all in buying these pieces of bad plastic. And what about the companies (from small to big) that produce miniatures based on comics/movies/books/games/characters/ without paying for a license? You are completely right about this. But some of our niche names might disappear over night. Continue with Recommended Cookies, A major recaster in China is closing up shop after being contacted by Games Workshop regarding their Warhammer. Although you will see the very evident differences, during this comparison you will find the original piece on the left pictures and the recast to the right. Speaking strictly GW, it is hard to say what effect recasting is having. people who dont play a game ultimately kill the game/hobby. Who does GW employ? 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