Rog. Incidentally, 4227 is listed in almost every category, even more often than H110/W296 or Lil Gun. 09-16-2021, 07:46 PM #2 badguybuster Boolit Buddy Join Date Oct 2013 Location West (By GOD) Virginia Posts 325 Remington rates the muzzle velocity at 2215 fps and the muzzle energy is 1360 foot-pounds. This ammunition is proudly made in the U.S.A. With 300 Blackout, you have options from low subsonic rounds to high-powered long distances ones. I own 2 different 300blk now. Confession time. Sound speed is 1087 @ 32 degrees Fahrenheit . Remington Premier Match ammunition uses all match-grade bullets. Love it or hate it, the 300 AAC Blackout is an interesting and incredibly diverse cartridge. Ballistics can be a tricky thing to judge because any judgment will be contingent upon your intended use case. by Dr.Phil Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:08 am, Post Growing up on a secluded farm in rural southeast Kansas, Ryan spent the greater part of his childhood in the woods, plinking and hunting. In this vein, I have settled on one powder for the .556 Hodgdons CFE 223 which I was fortunate enough to find a supply of shortly after it first became available and am hoping to do the same with their CFE Pistol if I can ever find any. BEST BULK BUY: Magtech 300AAC Blackout 200gr, 50rds. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. Here is a link to leatherhead bullets. A forum community dedicated to Sharpshooters and Sniper enthusiasts. The problem is that the comparisons do not use the same barrel lengths. I've only loaded 10 rds this morning since last post. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. I love my DDM4V7 in .300 BLK with a mid-length gas system. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. When it comes to recoil energy, assuming youre using an 8 pound rifle, the Blackout hits you less with 4.3 foot-pounds compared to the AKs 6.34 foot-pounds. Crimping is not needed in the AR platform if neck tension is correct. Been doing 300 BLK load development & testing since 2010. Out of my AR 1/8 the 150gr sst 16.0 gr h110 is really accurate and my go to for hogs and deer as a brush gun. Doh! Fiocchi uses precision-formed brass cases. In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. I have Lil' Gun and Accurate 1680 on hand, and will start working from the minimum advertised charge and go down in .5 gr increments. The primers are high quality staked and nickel-plated units. Thanks! As a footnote, my opinion of the .300 AAC Blackout round is that it is the .22S (short) version of the .308 Winchester/7.62 NATO round. Lbs,Note,OAL,Twist Rate . Im just north of Sandpoint, Idaho and at 2300 foot elevation Ive found my suppressor works well on a warm (80+deg) day with loads upto 1140 fps, so dont forget the elevation factor in local conditions. by phils3 Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:11 pm, Post Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. When you tried the 8.5gr , did you try it in your 8.5 barreled gun too? You simply cannot find better 300 Blackout ammo for hunting. Hodgdon Trail Boss may be just the right choise: Somehow I can't post a link to the Hodgdon PDF yet, but you can search online and find it. My Red X arms .300 AAC Blackout LOVES Hornady V-Max 110 grain bullets loaded with Lil Gun powder. When I first got my 300 BO, I was looking for Lil, Gun couldnt; find it, so ordered 1 lb of IMR4227 for the BO. Hornady fmj-bt, since they are relatively inexpensive. By 2011, she sold her farm and all of her horses to focus on 3-Gun and the 2nd Amendment. My results are as much as 700fps slower than the books say they should be. They come in boxes of 20. Hi All! Then started the task of measuring out different powder loads with W296 into 5 cases for 5 test loads that I will shoot this week so I can finally get to loading a lot of plinking rounds. With Sig Sauer, you know that the attention to quality and precision can't be beaten. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. If they are too large in diameter at the position of the magazine ribs, feeding can also be impacted. I have 150g SST And 150g Interlock SP. Required fields are marked *. Shooting with a suppressor increases backpressure and helps cycling alot too. Along came the .300 AAC Blackout = the answer to my angst of scraping that brass! I have dropped Lil Gun as well, but for different reasons. The possible reason being, without going to the time/trouble of annealing the cut off brass, bullet tension has to be suspect. tgilbert851@gmail.com. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. The top features of this ammunition are the affordability and the reliability. The process is too much to go into here, but its not that big a deal. 245 grain lead RNFP H110 8.6 1,107 N/A. According to all the load data I can find suggests using an overall length that is far to long to seat the bullet down to the cannelure. H110 works extremely well with bullets from 110 to 150 grains. For the testing rifle, I used a Daniel Defense DDM4v5 300 AAC Blackout. OUR TOP PICK: Aguila - 300 AAC Blackout 150gr FMJ Rifle Ammo. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. Follow our guide below for a detailed list of the best 300 Blackout ammo on the market today. I never had a problem with it in two 16" barrels with carbine gas systems using 110-130 grain bullets. Please bare with me as I want to see if I'm understanding this. I used the Leupold Mark 4 MR/T 1.5-520 scope for all accuracy testing. Imagine trying to design a ballistic compensation scope for a cartridge that can use 110 grain projectiles traveling at 2,400 feet per second AND 245 grain projectiles traveling at 950 feet per second. A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). The terrain in Southern Idaho often requires a hunter to be able to take shots at 400 yards and well beyond. This ammo is available boxes of either 50 or one thousand rounds. ABOUT WYATT: Wyatt is 14 years old and has also hunted Africa, Hawaii and other states as well. I tried the 110 grain Sierra Varminter hollow point just for fun, but the short profile gave me feeding problems in a couple of loads. Repeat using freshly Resized Brass. Diannas also won the 2015 NRA World Shooting Championship Ladies title. Projectile Powder Charge (grains) Average Velocity (feet per second) Group size, MOA Speer Gold dots have a flat base and the Speer data goes up to 20 grains. I'll be using the CCI 450 small rifle magnum primer. Of course, all of these options will have incredibly diverse trajectories, and thats what gives scope makers fits over the 300 AAC Blackout. Only use load data from a printed manual from a reputable manufacturer. The full metal jacketed bullets have a non-steel core (we're guessing that means lead). Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. In addition, Lil Gun has many magnum pistol applications and is a superb choice for reloading the 22 Hornet. All groups in the table below reflect 3 shots and are shown in minutes of angle. for starting load data. The 300 BLK is an interesting cartridge for the rifleman. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. I read the sticky on powders and that Lil Gun may not work well in 16 AR barrels unsupressed. That last one is somewhat like throwing a brick with much vigor. Thanks for your help. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. So they updated the load info accordingly. The company started out in 1969 and since then they have distinguished themselves with innovative products such as the Aguila mini shells. In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. 245 grain Cooper Cartridge Hard Cast 1,058 N/A. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. Its on the lighter side of the range of 300 AAC Blackout bullets, so its intended for the higher end supersonic performance. I am a reloader and these days I shoot to reload rather than reload to shoot so the development aspect appeals to me to a point. In fact, the loads that I have tested with other powders (2400, and Reloader 7) have generated greater signs of pressure and less velocity. Hunting, Lapua 200-grain SP Mega and Cutting Edge Bullets 230-grain Subsonic Raptor. I can pull my load book out tomorrow and tell you some numbers. Remember to shoot safely and enjoy the process of finding the best 300 Blackout ammunition for you. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. Sub rounds are quite finicky and need to be worked up for the individual barrel/gun. That being said, I don't plan on adding one to the rotation as I neither reload nor do I own a can until they can be had sans stamp. 950 fps is usually seen as a comfortable sub sonic load. It has digested all rounds I have put through it without one hiccup. Like I said, its a thrown brick. All Rights Reserved. It's essentially the same as the original .300 Whisper, but the Blackout includes a .015-inch longer throat. This is the ideal hard-hitting ammo for suppressed shooting in urban tactical environments. Hornady of Nebraska is one of the best ammunition makers in the world. Overall, this ammo is designed to be versatile, reliable, and standard, giving you consistent shooting at conventional velocities. The aac-sd with 110gr Sierra varmint bullets will shoot a clover leaf group but with that being said the 300blk is the most temp sensitive cartridge Ive ever fired Ill stick with 6.8 for deer. So they updated the load info accordingly. LILGUN Powder in the 300 Blackout Picked up a lb of Lilgun powder today. If you have a suppressed AR in 300 Blackout and want to stock up on affordable ammo, this is a great option. You are correct, they are essentially the same and I got it in a trade along with 2#s of IMR3031 for 223 loading. 2011 2022 2023 2026 Propellant Case Primer Weight (grains) Muzzle Velocity (feet/sec) Weight (grains) Hodgdon Lil'Gun Lake City Federal 205 18.2 2013 20.0 C Alliant Power Pro 300-MP Lake City Federal 205 17.1 1866 19.2 It shot the best group with the "middle of the road" powder load of 19.5 grains. Projectiles are also readily available as .308 inch diameter bullets are used in all sorts of rifles. At a Glance: Our Top Picks for 300 Blackout Ammo. Certainly not 150 gr cheap, but not Berger expensive either. This 150-grain 300 Blackout ammo has been designed specifically for use with America's favorite type of gun, the modern sporting rifle. The ribs on .223 magazines are sized to support the necks on .223 / 5.56mm cartridge cases. It has proven its reputation for innovation by developing excellent rounds such as the .17 HMR, the 6.5 Creedmoor and the .204 Ruger. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. I can see the drop, but to the Left ? In 2016, she plans to lead a delegate of women to Capitol Hill in an effort to give legislators a face to put with gun owners. The top features of this ammo are the quality bullets and primers. If I want to shoot a thirty caliber projo I'll stuff it into a .308 or .30-06. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. I got great velocities and with lil'gun with 110 -150 grain bullets. This ammo comes in boxes of fifty rounds. The powder did not fully ignite and left a lot of crud in the barrel and chamber. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. He harvested his first turkey and whitetail deer at age 5 and completed his turkey grand slam by age 11. 400 yards -49.55 -16.87 Shooter's Reference Load Data for .300 AAC Blackout .300 AAC Blackout - Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholder: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Pistol Rifle Cowboy Starting Max Source 100 gr HPCE / OTCE (Lapua) 0.308" Powder: N105 (VihtaVuori) Primer: Small Rifle Case: Lapua Trim Length: 1.362" C.O.L. by rwilky78 Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:18 pm, Post 17.2 might be as hot as I can go with a boat tail. 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