I like the Speer 145 gr size for all of the 7's for deer. 4 Classic Hunting Bullets To Fill Your Tag, 5 Things You Must Know About Concealed Carry Insurance, Bowling Pin Shootings High-Powered Renaissance. No separation of of cores on impact. Nor am I one of them. I have used partitions for years, love the way they hang together for extra penetration. elk. Grand Slam bullets are Get the 76th edition of the World's Greatest Gun Book. On Mule Deer I use the Nosler 165 BT Ballistic Tip with the same load I use for the Barns and they are right there EVERY TIME. Allen: +1. they apparently used to be such but I think it is quite misleading to market them the same (and use tyhe same name) as the old GS knowing that they've made signifigant changes "downward". For deer ive had stellar results with the sierra gameking and nosler ballistic tip. I started off many many years ago with the Nosler partition, had great kills, extremely reliable, but not the most accurate from my rifle. The fact that Speer Bullets are so effective at defeating armor and stopping targets from falling makes them extremely effective. $131.95. Manufacturers feel compelled to offer the latest bullet trends to their customers, hence the Speer Deep Curl. In response to the criticism, Speer has announced that it will be discontinuing the production of the grand slam bullet. Haven't they also D/C'd the larger calibers ? was the GS made differently in the smaller calibers? I have a box or 2 that I haven't started working with so if they are discontinued I'd be willing to give up. Boat Tail RUGER: I just would not even bother to make a switch; I've lost count of the deer and elk I've shot or seen shot with Partitions, and switching to the Grand Slam would be, in my humble opinion, of no advantage whatsoever. In the post-World War II boom, three partners gathered in a Quonset hut and developed a bullet that would set the shooting world on its ear. of the same caliber and weight to facilitate expansion. Crappie Killer: If the partitions are not shooting for your, check the "runout" of your handloads.I'll bet that is the issue. 160 & 175 grain 7mm (.284) Bullets - Speer bonded + Sierras, OtoPro SoundGear Phantom and Impulse Review, Vortex Razor HD 4000 GB Rangefinder Review, Toric UHD 2.5-15x44mm FFP Hunt Series Riflescope Review, Hunting Big Mule Deer after Mid-October with Cliff Gray. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. . Dcouvrez nos Balles autres calibres TXRG au meilleur prix : super promotions, petites annonces et ventes aux enchres, paiement en 3 ou 4 fois sans frais. The Partition is available from Nosler as "Blemished" for a lower price than the "good ones". I quit using Nosler partitions years ago as the tips would get bent in the magazine of my 338 Win Mag just from the recoil of the rifle. I suppose I'll just have to buckle down and shoot some pork this summer. Then go with the acceptable charge and try shrinking the OAL a little(.05"-.015") to see if it improves accuracy. Winchester brass, CCI 200 primers. Joyce W. Hornady introduced his first bullet in 1949 (after making bullet jackets with Vernon Speer), and that 150-grain, .308-inch-caliber spire-point developed his reputation. There are many bullets offered to hunters that are When I ordered them last year they actually came in the Midway blue boxes they use for their seconds, but did say Speer grand slam. I think the factor to look at is the weight retention they are designed for. The Sierra GameKing and ProHunter boattail and flat base, respectivelyhave a good, thick jacket, and give good expansion and penetration. The extra weight and sharpness also make them more likely to expand, which can cause more damage to a target. Some bullets, such as the Nosler Partition, are offered in many brands of For the Most noteworthy the nosler partition lately and speer grand slam back when it still had two cores. Speer's parent company ATK also owns Fusion, so that makes perfect sense. pre-formed lead core used by most bullet makers. A 225 grain .338 bullet is probably going to be optimized for use on CXP3 game, such as elk and grizzly bear. that's really my big gripe. I'm good on the 120gr .257 Hot-Cor because when i found out they were going to drop it i bought enough to last me a lifetime because it's no doubt my favorite deer bullet from the 25.06. 150 Grand Slam 145 ELD-X 140 A-Frame 140 Partition 140 TSX 140 Accubond 130 Partition 130 TTSX 130 A-Frame All the above bullets will do what you need them to do without any drama. Nosler Partition starting at $35 Sportsman's Warehouse. . 220 Grain. The reloader can choose from a great selection of traditional and high-tech 7mm bullets - from 100 to 175 grains. Use the one your rifle likes the best. I no longer consider them a "premium" bullet. I could probably spend the rest of my days using a Nosler Partition as my go-to bullet (except where a solid is called for) without much concern. I recall the GS placed in the middle of the pack. The Nosler Partition is a fantastic bullet; and, although its virtually unchanged from the original 1948 design, it still gives high weight retention, wide expansion and deep penetration from nearly any angle, just as John desired. If it wont shoot these, it wont shoot, he insists, and I dont know that hes wrong. At the time, civilian hunters/reloaders were unable to buy Haven't they also D/C'd the larger calibers ? Speer is known for discontinuing bullets and they always seem to drop the ones i use. Speer produces four bullet lines and there must be a reason for this. seek. I have an image of some poor schmuck at corporate HQ (somebody I might have resembled in an earlier life) being handed the news one morning that the beancounters had coerced the lab boys into coming up with a new, improved -- spelled cheaper but might work OK -- Speer Grand Slam design. While it might not have eye-popping B.C. The Nosler Partition is a type of bullet designed for hunting. It has the perfect combination of penetration, yet opens easily and creates large wound channels. Continuous development led to the 1977 release of the InterLock bullet, a rework of the 1965 InnerGroove bullet, but with a cannelure that locks together the lead core and copper jacket. I agree with some of the above posts that the a frame is a superior bullet in general. Interesting reading. appropriate to the game hunted. The Nosler Partition is a fantastic bullet; and, although it's virtually unchanged from the original 1948 design, it still gives high weight retention, wide expansion and deep penetration from nearly any angle, just as John desired. You are using an out of date browser. GS in .358 for my .35 Whelen. The 4th one strings out about an inch, but I hope I never need that one! Interlock, or cup and core = deer of about all sizes, partition = bear or something thick enough to require more penetration than expansion. These bullets that follow expand rapidly enough to be reliable on Class 2 Re: Nosler Partition or Speer Grand Slam Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. What are your experiences, good or bad, with the Nosler Partition or the Speer Grand Slam bullets on big game? 125 Grain. The 13-degree boat tail gives I took my first few deer with the contents of the green-and-yellow box of 170-grain Core-Lokt .30-30 Winchester ammo, so it has a special place in my hunting memories. A homogenous bullet with limited expansion may be the best all-around choice for Class 4 game and the Barnes TSX has an excellent reputation in appropriate calibers. Many of the bullets listed for Class 3 game would also be good choices for hunting large, potentially dangerous predators, such as leopard, jaguar, for the small predators, especially coyotes, which prey on them. of game, such as pronghorn antelope or Coues deer, at any range. Editor's Note: This article originally appeared in the July 2020 issue of Gun Digest the Magazine. The When pulling it out, it looked like the perfect mushroom but the core fell out! reasonable choice for Class 2 deer in .257 Roberts, for Class 3 elk in 7mm Magnum and Both will work, the partition is a way better bullet. cases as jackets. For a while the Grand Slam was challenged within the Speer You could quickly become a fan. Bullets for such game require deep penetration in a straight line in order to reach the vitals after piercing very thick hide, layers of heavy muscle and (often) breaking massive bones. I didn't think they would give taht kind of performance. I switched to Grand Slams which had a flatter tip and never looked back. the test doesn't show how they'll work on game but it does show how they perform relative to bullets with known big game performance, so indirectly I can gain information on how they'd work on game. OK, enough of that rant. used them (130s in a 270) for a year back when components were pretty tough to come up with. Of course in their case there it was one change after another. Joel SlateSlate & Associates, LLCThe Safari Specialistswww.slatesafaris.com, ray@atkinsonhunting.com atkinsonhunting.com. Now I use them and A frames exclusively in hunting loads from 95 gr 243's to 286gr 9.3 x 62's. Performance on game has always been good, but there are so many other good choices these days, that I haven't used a Partition in several years. GameKing, other conventional boat tail/soft point bullets and the various tipped/boat Sierra MatchKing starting at $16 Sportsman's Warehouse. Jul 24, 2010 #1 Views please . results should tell you what bullet your rifle prefers. Apr 16, 2017; Thread Starter . Funny, a change was what -well not altogether- caused me to stop using Barnes. I've not shot them much as that one box is pretty much it. They went away from the 2 different core hardness and now they are just one core of hard lead. OK, enough of that rant. I'll repeat the water-filled gallon jugs test with some and see how they perform. The velocity and sd are what kill with the 270. classic examples of proven, all-around bullets. 1) 7mm 150 grain Partition 35 count - $20 shipped to conusa. As such, it is more expensive than the other Speer bullets. the quickest kills of medium size animals. Back then I used a .375 H&H Mag using 285 gr Grand Slams because Nosler for some reason stopped making their Partitions in .375 at that time. sake of brevity, such bullets are listed under their manufacturer's name only (Nosler I have no experience with current production grand slams. The reason I ask is I got four boxes of the 250 gr. You have entered an incorrect email address! And, as I proved with that Scottish stag (in addition to a couple of good whitetails and a Texas boar that fell to a 140-grain InterLock from a Rigby in .275 Rigby), its enough bullet. Wed spent the majority of the afternoon chasing the herds of red stag around the Blair Atholl Estate, for which Hepburn was a game stalker, and wed set up a perfect ambush. Speer have been very good for all deer and hogs a few bear. It was the first component bullet I ever loaded and hunted with. So will North Forks, Nosler Partitions, Barnes TSX, Kodiaks, Woodleighs, GS soft points, Hornady Interbonds and Speer Grand Slams - and if I missed your favorite bullet -it probably will too. Class 4 species can be quite dangerous and are the only category of game for which "solid" (non-expanding) round nose bullets are sometimes recommended, particularly for brain shots on hippo and elephant or to immobilize dangerous Class 4 animals by breaking both shoulders. I bought 6 of the transparent yellow boxes (grand slams) to work a load for that hunt. So it looks like Midway just isn't going to stock. Glorifying excellence is inherently a rebellious act against mediocrity. I think they do that to limit the amount of back orders they have to fulfill. Bruce, I've been waiting nearly twenty years for this thread. choice. (2002-2003 I'd guess). 300 Winchester Short Magnum (WSM) Load Data. Compared to a Hot-Cor Speer Grand Slam bullets are designed for maximum penetration and expansion. Their "heavy game bullets" are now all Trophy Bonded. These are spitzer and semi-spitzer style flat base bullets. I have a small supply of the 250 grain 358 GS that I will be loading in my BLR in 358 Winchester for an upcoming trip to Africa. Now I am loading the current .277/150 gr. Got a good deal so basically shot them of for the Brass. Ok so as a lifelong hunter and hand loader I have always shot premium controlled expansion bullets. It was created by John Nosler in 1949. Accurate and DEADLY in my experience. jacket into which is inserted a pre-formed lead core. If you are interested in purchasing a bonded bullet from Speer, it is best to contact them directly to inquire about availability and pricing. The Having posed the question on the various US forums the "best" seems to be either the Nosler Partition in 100 grains (personally I have my doubts because . was the GS made differently in the smaller calibers. The beauty is its simplicity, and I like the fact that Remington still offers a bunch of round-nosed choices for those of us who spend most of our time inside 150 yards or so. . Mostly because I have a slew of 285 grain GS in .375 and it seems like everyone has their own opinion of how they perform with all manner of caveats. I for the life of me can't figure out why anyone ever picked grand slams today over any of the other premium bullets. I went from the NP's in my 7mm Rem Mag. Including breaking shoulders on a 220 lb 8 pt. All I can say is that the new Grand Slams do not hold up nearly as well as the old ones when shot into dry newspaper, which I have found to be a good test if you really ewant to stress a bullet. Many shooters use the Grand Slam for long-range shooting and for hunting. A 90 grain .243 from any bullet line is probably going to be optimized for use on light framed medium game, such as pronghorn antelope and the smaller deer species. Vernon Speer is really one of the unsung heroes of our current handloading nirvana, for sure. The traditional cup-and-core bullets, if they are of proper sectional density, can work very well on African plains game. core/jacket integrity and less chance of the core slipping from the jacket Vernon Speer was a pioneer in the component bullet industry. Take, for example, the popular Remington https://www.shootersproshop.com/catalog ategory/2/, https://www.shootersproshop.com/loading -50ct.html. generic factory loads for non . Some of them may appear on both the Class 2 and A good part of the reason is marketing. For example, the 150 grain Hot-Cor is a good choice for deer hunting with a .308 Winchester rifle and it is hard to see how the same caliber and weight bullet from the Deep Curl or Grand Slam lines would make any difference in killing power. I am a bit disappointed that the lead in the front half does not stay with the bullet. name to reloaders. on Class 2 animals and "soft" bullets intended for medium size game are I used the old style Grand Slams back in the early 90's.They were great bullets.I've also shot 120gr Speer Hot Cores and 117gr Sierra bullets.I never shot any Nosler's back then,but they now have 110gr Accubonds,115gr Ballistic Tips and also Partitions.I don't have any 25cals anymore,but I'd give Noslers a hard look.I don't think you will find . There are internal heel folds near the base to mechanically lock the look foreward to hearing the results of your search. The bullet is the cheapest part of the hunt, but the most important. Both will work, the partition is a way better bullet. Grand Slam has a crimping cannelure, which also helps to hold jacket and core I started reloading over 45 years ago with Speer bullets, before the introduction of Hot-Cor, Boat Tail, Grand Slam and Deep Curl, and I still use them. expansion. I am hoping that is the Speer Mag Tips I loaded up to use on deer this fall in my 7mm Rem Mag. I've been reading at the twenty-four hour campfire a lot of guys using them with high degree of success. I do know I got my Arkansas elk permit in 2001. My 7-08 R25 actaully shoots the 150-160 gr bullets better with 4831 than the 4350. Both are versatile, all-around bullets suitable for mixed bag hunts. The .257 120gr Hot-Cor, .257 120gr Deep Curl and the .264 120gr Hot-Cor are three that come to mind. Well keep us updated with what Speer says, didn't they discontinue the 120gr hotcor recently too. In researching the speer grand slam vs the nosler partition it seemed that the GS was a bit tougher than the nosler. Once you determine the bullet that spews fragments in the middle of the chest and stops under the skin expansion than Speer's premium Grand Slam, with consequently less penetration. . Hornady max variance was 0.006" variance, compared to 140g Nosler Partition at 0.001". If you hunt at ranges for which holdover doesnt matter, try some round-nosed Core-Lokts. Get 3100fps and your damn near unbeatable are reasonable ranges. The more I think about it, I'd probably opt for the Hornady 270 next time for plains gameperhaps short of eland. Barnes, Berger, Combined Technology, Hornady, Nosler, Sierra, Speer, Swift, and Winchester. I had good luck with the old Grand Slams, before they were cheapened, I mean, redesigned. A interlock does controlled expansion and a partition does penetration. I've never tried the Grand Slam but have always read and heard positive reviews on that bullet. It is also a good performer, just . Odd thing is, I placed the core back in the jacket and pressed it together, it stayed! The That bulletthe #1400 .224-inch-diameter, 53-grain, flat-base, match hollow-pointjust happens to be the bullet my own .22-250 Remington likes best. Lewiston manufactures our products in a small city in Idaho, and we have an unrivaled reputation for quality. The GS of today is not the same as it was when it was introduced. Grand Slam is a good choice for CXP3 game in appropriate As a businessman, I have Dont waste your money! Core-Lokt bullet, which is available in numerous calibers and bullet weights weight retention and deeper penetration. in factory loads and to reloaders. The bulls shoulder was caked in dried clay and, combined with its tough shoulder bones, it proved to be too much for the cup-and-core bullets Nosler was using. Bonded core bullets are all the rage, so new to the Speer Frankly, there are better choices for that job, but the Core-Lokt is one helluva deer bullet. There is no definitive answer to this question as it depends on individual preferences and opinions. and the lubrication used to insert the core in the jacket. When using these bullets in a magnum cartridge, I do prefer a healthy amount of bullet weight to prevent premature breakup, but Ill certainly attest to dozens of whitetails that fell to a 165-grain Hornady InterLock from my .308 Winchester. For elk- accubond, or partition for similar price range. 175 grain for my 7x57 and 285 grain for my 375 Ruger. ------------------My wife told me if I buy another gun she would leave me.I hope the door does not hit her on the way out!!!!! because I think the Nosler Partition has more than proven itself in the hunting world. Its suitable for nearly all game animals that are hunted with soft-point (expanding) bullets, including feral hogs, pronghorn, elk, moose, bear and even Cape buffalo. 6.5 Creedmoor 142gr AccuBond Long Range Trophy Grade Ammunition View Details. His concept of using a partition of jacket material between two lead cores (the front core would mushroom, and the rear core would drive deeply into the vitals) remains a staple to this day. Expansion must be subordinated to penetration in such bullets. .277 150gr grand slams hammered an elk for my wife last year and shoot very very well. flagship bullet. Strange, I saw a similar message about the 220 HotCor for .358. The only thing you will find with the blems are one or two in the box are a little tarnished or discolored, but they shoot perfectly. Grand Slam out of a 270 from about 50 yds. These bullets are too long to shoot well in my Schultz&Larsen 7mm S&H 1-12" twist barrel. Impact velocity is typically lower at long Grand Slam was designed to compete with the other deep penetration premium bullets of the time, such as the Nosler Partition. GS is a bullet capable of shooting at a speed of 2740 fps when fired from a 24-inch Win. The days of using cheap and substandard ammunition have long passed as a result of the introduction of precision-crafted rifle bullets. same point of impact. the "old and new" GS differences in mfg would be interesting to note. Nosler decided to build a bullet that couldnt failand he did so. ], http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2511043/m/44710145. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You might try buying them directly from Speer. Frangible bullets also provide the quickest grand slams, but I tried the 175 gr in my 7mm Rem Mag. The shank of the Grand Slam's tapered gilding metal jacket is up to 45% thicker than standard game bullets and a cannelure . it more suitable for long range use. But these were 285-grain bullets at moderate velocity. But, for the annual fall deer hunt, its hard to argue with the InterLock. I hardly ever hear anyone refer to this bullet. If you are using a Hot-Cor bullet in a caliber and weight suitable for the game you are hunting, you probably don't need a Deep Curl or Grand Slam. I for the life of me can't figure out why anyone ever picked grand slams today over any of the other premium bullets. 100g HORNADY INTERLOCK V 100g SPEER GRAND SLAM (243) Thread starter mick b; Start date Jul 24, 2010; mick b Well-Known Member. Lewiston, Idaho. of the 10 rounds fired, he only recovered two, the rest passed clean through. The bullets listed in the Class 2 category can be deadly if metal jacket cup at 900-degrees F via the Hot-Cor process. I have literally shot hundreds of these into my test media, not even one failure. .300 WSM 150 Speer Grand Slam, 165 Nosler Partition Nothing on the .270 Win, .270 WSM or .30-06 Tom Reply. There are some classic designsthose our grandfathers usedthat are still viable choices and that remain highly useful and affordable options for the hunter and shooter. It is manufactured in the conventional manner, using a drawn gilding metal If you have sticker shock check out the speer grand slam. This category includes such creatures as North American bison, water buffalo, Cape buffalo, hippo, rhino and elephant. Copyright 2012 by Chuck Hawks. For deer ive had stellar results with the sierra gameking and nosler ballistic tip. Frangible varmint bullets should never be I'm just a casual observer, the effete snob upon the hill with the fine wine and the opera glasses, gazing down upon your little battlefield, looking alternately aghast and bemused. 9 Feb 2019: 145 Gr Speer Grand Slam from a 284 Win, frontal shot, downward angle on smallish whitetail buck. One of the best reloading investments I've ever made was a Stoney point OAL tool and comparator kit. Bristol. With the old stag, which had been rolling in the peat while tending his hinds, facing head on at 245 yards, I leaned the forend of the graceful Rigby Highland Stalker on Hepburns pack, let my breath halfway out, gave the stag 6 inches of elevation and squeezed the trigger. MagTip's for my .416 Rigby but haven't used it on game yet. It is known for its accuracy and its ability to penetrate deeply into targets. jacket is made with a heavy heel section. Been up and down the powder scale with both IMR4831 and H4350. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I'm thinking about using some 145 grainers in my 7-08 this fall. A 130 grain bullet out of a 270 Win is certainly mule deer capable and will suffice for elk provided you dont try and break through the shoulder. To better avoid jacket/core separation, the Boat Tail's A interlock and partition are not trying to do the same thing. In appropriate Sierra GameKing and ProHunter. The bonding of jacket to core virtually eliminates the possibility of Bullets for Dangerous Predators (Class 4). process eliminates the problems associated with air pockets in the lead core You are using an out of date browser. The Grand Slams I have were made in the early 80's so I'm assuming they are the old style, they shoot around 1" in about all calibers for me with several powders. when you go on a hunting trip there is nothing worse than getting out there with ammo that is not working at the highest level. The Nosler partitions are OK, the Swift A-Frames are much better than the Nosler partitions. Just run your ballistics with it, and know your effective range. Get 3100fps and your damn near unbeatable are reasonable ranges. The Partition and the Accubond are designed to retain 60% of their weight during penetration and they do exactly that. 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